tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6446080505629636230.post8784506960257441124..comments2023-10-29T08:35:02.067-05:00Comments on Running Endlessly Through Time: Long Run - How Important is it REALLY?I am a runner. "We are what we repeatedly do"http://www.blogger.com/profile/02521853843930270632noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6446080505629636230.post-18370854615557910272007-04-13T20:21:00.000-05:002007-04-13T20:21:00.000-05:00Wow, this is great stuff! I'm just now training fo...Wow, this is great stuff! I'm just now training for my first 50-miler and you've addressed questions I've been wondering about. I linked to you blog from the Ultra list. Glad I did!Ellie Hamiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03592691217213028495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6446080505629636230.post-19501009712447517352007-04-12T05:18:00.000-05:002007-04-12T05:18:00.000-05:00well your plea for some response prodded some acti...well your plea for some response prodded some action here it seems.<BR/><BR/>Dave said "if you don't do a longggg run - at least in my case, I'll burn too much carbohydrate/too little fat early on."<BR/><BR/>This made me think that there is no specific formula - everybody has to find the zone for themselves and the only way they can find that that zone is by putting the miles in and experimenting.<BR/><BR/>I will extend this thought on my blog, 51 Days at Multidays.comAbichalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16025403436613484814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6446080505629636230.post-84895012045189017342007-04-11T16:13:00.000-05:002007-04-11T16:13:00.000-05:00Loomdog,It's nice hearing from you, again.Bad BenLoomdog,<BR/>It's nice hearing from you, again.<BR/>Bad BenBen, aka BadBenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00686400413182985272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6446080505629636230.post-61952958143200507572007-04-11T13:59:00.000-05:002007-04-11T13:59:00.000-05:00Interesting read ... I'm not very scientific about...Interesting read ... I'm not very scientific about running on purpose. I've been "running" for 32 years and found (about 20 years ago), that I enjoy running more if I don't dwell on the science. It works for me. However, I go through spells of wanting to improve so I investigate and will sometimes even wear a watch. <BR/><BR/>Your emphatic comments, while I tend to disagree with most of them, are great! I'd rather hear from someone with an opinion that those who are afraid to theirs out there. <BR/><BR/>The comment about the Noakes book you made, "By the way, if you do not own this book, you are not as serious about running as you think you are," made me laugh. I generally don't read running rags or books. I find them elitist in nature and not of use for the average runner. By chance, my son was looking for a birthday present for me and bought me this book. Most of what I read seemed obvious to me - except the science part which just put me to sleep. No offense, it's just not my thing. <BR/><BR/>The history of ultra running was interesting to read ... once. I probably should hand that off to someone now that I think if it, as it's sitting on my bookshelf collecting dust. <BR/><BR/>So actually you're wrong. I am as serious about running as I think I am ... not very serious that is. <BR/><BR/>Keep up the good posts. I like reading from those who write from the heart. <BR/><BR/>All in good fun ;-) *tcTony Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17006754089850914184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6446080505629636230.post-48685568090766721462007-04-11T11:04:00.000-05:002007-04-11T11:04:00.000-05:00Very interesting post. If you find an answer to th...Very interesting post. If you find an answer to this "question" please let us know. I ran my first 100 in February and did 50 miles as my longest training run. That seemed to work ok for me, but in the future i think i would maybe go a bit longer in training (60-70 miles). because such a large part of pushing your body beyond what you've already put it through is mental I think it makes sense to do a quite LONG long run so as to minimize the length in your race that will be new territory within your current training cycle. then again I am also very intriqued by the people i read about who do only 30-50 miles a week, with long runs of 20 miles in prep. for 100 milers. this is also an approach that is very intriquing to me. i guess the reality is that it's different for everyone.Geoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03238385683129822240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6446080505629636230.post-29286458636252663422007-04-11T10:42:00.000-05:002007-04-11T10:42:00.000-05:00Greg- good read! I think that you need to train y...Greg- good read! I think that you need to train your body with the long run. I feel that this is as much a mental training as it is a physical training. Keep up the good work and keep writing great posts. Hope to see you in the states soon.<BR/><BR/>I'll be running the McNaughton Parks Trail run 100 with Sherpa John this weekend and hopefully we'll have a post for you to read next week. <BR/><BR/>God Bless and Good Runningoneday100mileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10562396847121341257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6446080505629636230.post-82841284246601062762007-04-11T10:35:00.000-05:002007-04-11T10:35:00.000-05:00Mind over matter. My longest run before my 100 mil...Mind over matter. My longest run before my 100 miler was 41 miles. I thought I was undertrained, then my husband reminded me I had finished. <BR/>I never thought about limitations and didn't think about dropping and didn't focus on the pain.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00310860709666039413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6446080505629636230.post-13276976083915203682007-04-11T08:54:00.000-05:002007-04-11T08:54:00.000-05:00I agree with you. I believe the long run is impor...I agree with you. I believe the long run is important for a few reasons.<BR/><BR/>First, the body can't solely burn carbohydrates indefinitely - but if you don't do a longggg run - at least in my case, I'll burn too much carbohydrate/too little fat early on.<BR/><BR/>Second, I believe you have to train what you race in the sense that if you run a 100; your body needs to be adept at processing intake calories on the run. If you haven't practiced this on a run of sufficient length where the body needs to take in calories, the processing will be sub-optimal.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08133948143684086804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6446080505629636230.post-74098231991517270862007-04-11T08:08:00.000-05:002007-04-11T08:08:00.000-05:00My longest run was 50 mile in prep for my 1st 100 ...My longest run was 50 mile in prep for my 1st 100 this weekend.... but the runs I felt were important were the 50K I ran EVERYweek for the last month topping off with a weeked of Fri=20, Sat=30, Sun=20.<BR/><BR/>Whatever works best right?? We'll see if it does.<BR/><BR/>SEE YOU IN VT!sherpajohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08673139614510343222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6446080505629636230.post-52124711107183686442007-04-11T07:24:00.000-05:002007-04-11T07:24:00.000-05:00Greg- just thought I'd give you a little love with...Greg- just thought I'd give you a little love with a comment. Good food for thought - I've run marathons with long runs of 4-5 hours (26-30 miles); my first 50 is in September. I'm tentatively planning on a long run of 40 miles, but as a rookie I'm open to wisdom. My base runs are 10 miles three times per week, with a long run on the weekend - and I never do speedwork (need to). How important is speedwork to your training?<BR/>-BBBrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17805551418068119182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6446080505629636230.post-86769223195685241842007-04-11T04:24:00.000-05:002007-04-11T04:24:00.000-05:00Very interesting post! I'll admit that I've skimme...Very interesting post! I'll admit that I've skimmed through parts, as its the middle of the night here in CA and I've been up for a good number of hours, but I'm definitely planning to come back and read it again when I'm slightly more coherent. The question of how long a long run should be is a really good one, and one that I'm grappling with as I'm heading into my first 50k.Adelynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16256451142660464796noreply@blogger.com